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5.X appointed persons in the NEC

Postby azrael » Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:23 pm

NEW clause inserted between 5.1 and 5.2

The elected core of NEC may appoint additional members, in a non-voting capacity, to help them. Members appointed in this way have none of the rights of an NEC elected officer. For the purposes of triggering a vote of no confidence these members are to be considered elected officials and non-voting members of the NEC.

This is intended as a replacement to the phrase 'together with members selected in accordance with rules to be made by the NEC from time to time' which will hopefully be removed by successful vote on viewtopic.php?f=76&t=3373

Previous phrase had awkward wording that NEC can select new members and this clause replaces that to clarify these selected members are not full voting members, and also that they can be VONCed.
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Re: 5.X appointed persons in the NEC

Postby scuzzmonkey » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:48 am

The Elected Officers of NEC may appoint additional officers in a non-voting capacity to help them as they see fit. Appointed Officers have none of the rights of an Elected Officer to the NEC. Appointed Officers are subject to the same Arbitration and Disciplinary procedures as Elected Officers.


Proposed slight re-wording. Thoughts?
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Re: 5.X appointed persons in the NEC

Postby tuoni » Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:31 am

scuzzmonkey wrote:
The Elected Officers of NEC may appoint additional officers in a non-voting capacity to help them as they see fit. Appointed Officers have none of the rights of an Elected Officer to the NEC. Appointed Officers are subject to the same Arbitration and Disciplinary procedures as Elected Officers.


Proposed slight re-wording. Thoughts?
This reads better than the original wording.

As to the content, as an appointed non-voting officer I have a bit of a conflict of interest ;) however, you may want to make sure in the wording that these appointed officers can be unappointed by the NEC when their role is no longer deemed necessary, we don't want to end up in a situation where, for instance, the NEC decide they no longer need anyone to run the IT side of things and yet they can't un-appoint the IT Team leader or... something. iunno. I always get a bit twitchy over the depths our constitution seems to go in prescribing the minutiae of everyday workings of what is still a young party.
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Re: 5.X appointed persons in the NEC

Postby azrael » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:32 pm

agree with better wording, also agree on making unappointing obvious

The Elected Officers of NEC may appoint additional officers in a non-voting capacity to help them as they see fit. Appointed Officers have none of the rights of an Elected Officer to the NEC. Appointed Officers may be removed by the NEC at any time and are subject to the same Arbitration and Disciplinary procedures as Elected Officers.


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Re: 5.X appointed persons in the NEC

Postby cabalamat » Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:25 pm

azrael wrote:agree with better wording, also agree on making unappointing obvious

The Elected Officers of NEC may appoint additional officers in a non-voting capacity to help them as they see fit. Appointed Officers have none of the rights of an Elected Officer to the NEC. Appointed Officers may be removed by the NEC at any time and are subject to the same Arbitration and Disciplinary procedures as Elected Officers.


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Sounds good to me.
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Re: 5.X appointed persons in the NEC

Postby scuzzmonkey » Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:25 pm

azrael wrote:agree with better wording, also agree on making unappointing obvious

The Elected Officers of NEC may appoint additional officers in a non-voting capacity to help them as they see fit. Appointed Officers have none of the rights of an Elected Officer to the NEC. Appointed Officers may be removed by the NEC at any time and are subject to the same Arbitration and Disciplinary procedures as Elected Officers.


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I'm happy with that.
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Re: 5.X appointed persons in the NEC

Postby Gavman » Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:22 pm

Sorry being pedantic can we adjust "The Elected Officers of NEC" to "The Elected Officers of the NEC" please
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Re: 5.X appointed persons in the NEC

Postby tuoni » Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:27 pm

The Elected Officers of the NEC may appoint additional officers in a non-voting capacity to help them as they see fit. Appointed Officers have none of the rights of an Elected Officer of the NEC and may be removed by the Elected Officers of the NEC at any time. Appointed Officers are subject to the same Arbitration and Disciplinary procedures as Elected Officers.


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