AZ013 - 8.1.2 Board -> Working Practices (CoP)

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AZ013 - 8.1.2 Board -> Working Practices (CoP)

Postby azrael » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:03 pm

Affects 8.1.2
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8.1.2 The working practices of the Board shall be outlined in a separate Code of Practice to be maintained and published to members by the Board.

No need to constitutionally mandate exact working practices, as these should be up to the board. However it is important that the working practices that a particular Board’s decides upon are clarified to all of the Party members. Advise we have such a CoP before this clause is adopted ;)
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Re: AZ013 - 8.1.2

Postby AndrewTindall » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:25 pm

Supported. Was going to suggest something similar.
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Re: AZ013 - 8.1.2

Postby scottishduck » Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:59 pm

Supported.
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Re: AZ013 - 8.1.2

Postby azrael » Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:55 pm

AndrewTindall wrote:Supported. Was going to suggest something similar.


someone, may have been you and/or duke, did indeed suggest it. I totally stole it 'cause brilliance is there to be stolen :)
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Re: AZ013 - 8.1.2

Postby M2Ys4U » Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:52 pm

Supported

azrael wrote:
AndrewTindall wrote:Supported. Was going to suggest something similar.


someone, may have been you and/or duke, did indeed suggest it. I totally stole it 'cause brilliance is there to be stolen :)

Who provides the amendments doesn't matter, we're all The Board collectively. :D
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Re: AZ013 - 8.1.2

Postby glambert » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:27 pm

supported + voted.
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Re: AZ013 - 8.1.2

Postby Finlay_A » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:29 pm

supported, voted, and ...

azrael wrote:I totally stole it 'cause brilliance is there to be stolen :)


I believe the correct term is "pirated" :mrgreen:
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Re: AZ013 - 8.1.2

Postby glambert » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:31 pm

Finlay_A wrote:supported, voted, and ...

azrael wrote:I totally stole it 'cause brilliance is there to be stolen :)


I believe the correct term is "pirated" :mrgreen:


I lol'd :D

Sharing is caring azrael!!
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Re: AZ013 - 8.1.2 Board -> Working Practices (CoP)

Postby Gavman » Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:04 am

Can I suggest that consideration be given to not limiting the drawing up of a CoP to just the board.

I acknowledge that because the Party is small, it is unrealistic that we could find enough active people to form a group outside of the Board to be part of writing the CoP but I think it should in some way maybe written to say a panel appointed by the board will handle the CoP.

Now at this early stage, it could well be that the board IS the panel but in the future there should be some independent oversight/input into a CoP, otherwise the board can just re-write things as they see fit? (Once again not saying that any of the current members would, but why risk allowing it in the future?)
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Re: AZ013 - 8.1.2 Board -> Working Practices (CoP)

Postby azrael » Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:44 am

The code of practice is essentially supposed to be a documented list of 'the way the Board wishes to carry out it's duties'. The purpose isn't to allow the Board to create new rules on anyone else, but more to give other members an understanding of the way the Board does things. The CoP *should* (IMO) be written by the Board, and should be updated by every new Board to reflect their working practices.

e.g. A particular Board may want to have a weekly Wednesday meeting to discuss whatever might have come up in the week. It would be good for members to know the details of that to understand why when they submit a query on Thursday they wait a week to get a response, but why when they submit a query on Tuesday they get a faster response.

Likewise a Board may decide everything is discussed by email as and when stuff crops up, and so things are dealt with piecemeal and faster.

Either way it isn't for anyone other than the Board to decide the finer details of *how* they do their stuff (within the confines of *what* they can and can't do) ... yet very very useful (and transparent) for the Board to publicise *how* they do stuff.
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Re: AZ013 - 8.1.2 Board -> Working Practices (CoP)

Postby Gavman » Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:48 am

see, don't you feel better now that your reasoning is understood rather than one line 'supported' statements :)

(go discussions!)

But back to the point, I do not take issue with anything that you state. I will admit that I did not digest the original proposal. For some reason I thought it meant the board wanted to be the ones who controlled and wrote all CoP's, but clearly the proposal states 'The working practices of the Board' so yes the proposal makes sense and the reasons you submit for it do too.
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Re: AZ013 - 8.1.2 Board -> Working Practices (CoP)

Postby azrael » Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:00 am

I *do* feel happy to have been able to explain and correct a confusion. Totally with you on the 'go discussions' sentiment :D

Without trawling around I am sure other clauses refer to 'codes of practice' for a variety of different things which probably do go beyond 'working practices'. It may not be clear but the many varied references to 'code of practice' (assuming I am not making up their existence) are not the same single document. Just codes of practice for different things. I can see it being entirely legitimate that *some* of the codes of practice should be written by a more inclusive process.
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Re: AZ013 - 8.1.2 Board -> Working Practices (CoP)

Postby Gavman » Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:08 am

Yup, I am in agreement with you.

I did understand it that there will be many Code of Practices but as this proposal specifically sates the Board Working CoP, I think you summed up why this clause is relevant satisfactorily.

Once again, any other members have opinions?
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